Iowa

Posted: January 3, 2008 in Politics

My, my…

    Well, this should cause more then a few hair pulling sessions amongst the political punditry. The 2008 Republican Iowa Primary is in the books and, barring a really amazing and unheard of comeback, it didn’t go to either Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney. No sir, it went to Mike Huckabee with a commanding lead of (at the time of this writing) 9%. As a matter of fact, while Romney managed to come in second, Giuliani came in 6th place.   

 

 

Mike Huckabee 39,814 34% 30
Mitt Romney 29,405 25% 7
Fred Thompson 15,521 13% 0
John McCain 15,248 13% 0
Ron Paul 11,598 10% 0
Rudy Giuliani 4,013 3% 0
Duncan Hunter 515 0% 0
96% of precincts reporting

    Fox News must be so depressed right now. Hopefully, Alan Colmes is keeping Sean Hannity away from any sharp objects and window ledges. ~8?) 

   The Democrats are having a more interesting race.  

 

 

Barack Obama 940 38% 16
John Edwards 744 30% 14
Hillary Clinton 737 29% 15
Bill Richardson 53 2% 0
Joe Biden 23 1% 0
Uncommitted 3 0%
Chris Dodd 1 0% 0
Mike Gravel 0 0% 0
Dennis Kucinich 0 0% 0
100% of precincts reporting

   Obama is the projected winner on the left side of the fence, but his lead isn’t anywhere near what he or his supporters would have liked to have seen. The big fun in this one isn’t so much that Obama won, but rather that Obama and Edwards have beat Hillary. This has to be a huge blow to the Clinton camp. Some of the momentum that she had in some quarters was her appearance of destiny. She was going to be the winner because she was going to be the winner. That has been crumbling somewhat of late to Obama’s gains, but losing to Obama and Edwards both must surely destroy that façade in the minds of many.

     There’s also a nice little comment on race here that’s been mentioned a little in the last few news blips and that I’m sure will get plenty of discussion time in the next 24 hours of news cycles. Obama, a black man, won in “corn fed, white bread” Iowa. While racism and its ill effects still exist in some small pockets of America and should not be discounted as a negative force in people’s lives, I think that this says a lot about how colorblind the nation really is. At least, one can always hope so.

 *Stats from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21229206

 

 Post updated 1/4/08 at 9:30 EST with newer graphs to show final results.

 

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Comments
  1. jjchandler says:

    I may have posted too soon about Obama not having the lead he wanted. I had a gut feeling that the Obama camp was looking for a 10% lead. Well, with 99% of the precincts reporting, he’s up to 8% over Edwards and 9% over Clinton.

    It’s also the end of the game for Dodd and Biden. In the last two hours, both men have thrown in the towel due to their poor showing in Iowa tonight.

  2. Micha says:

    Isn’t it a little strange that Iowa voters gave their suport to two candidates that seem lie the exact opposites of each other. Obaa and Huckabee?

  3. Bill Myers says:

    Writer Joel Stein observed that white northeasterners keep using southerners as an excuse not to vote for a black man. “Oh, *I’m* not a racist, but those damn southerners won’t vote for Obama, so I have to vote for someone else.”

    Micha, historically the New Hampshire primary ratifies the Iowans Democratic choice while rejecting that state’s Republican choice. It will be interesting to see if history repeats.

    Of course, I am also sick of the way each state is seen as a domino in the chain towards winning the nomination for presidency. Ideally, all states should hold their primary on the same day so that everyone is focused on voting their conscience rather than worrying about what voters in another state will do. Of course, that would be sane and therefore it will never come to be.

  4. jjchandler says:

    Well, at least some people are taking all of this in stride. Rudy “I Don’t Bring Up 9/11 for Every Little Thing” Giuliani was asked about how he felt about the Iowa results and his less then stellar polling results in NH. Rudy “I Don’t Bring Up 9/11 for Every Little Thing” Giuliani responded by stating, ““None of this worries me – Sept. 11, there were times I was worried.” Rudy “I Don’t Bring Up 9/11 for Every Little Thing” Giuliani, folks. Give the man a hand. Rudy, we here at Chandler’s Bar & Grill salute your ability to stick to your script (“9/11”) no matter how stupid it makes you sound.

    @$$#+!&

  5. Micha says:

    Bill, youre right. It would make more sense to have all the primaries in one day, but of course this would make the whole campaigning much shorter, and what would be the fun in that?

    We Israelis were very impressed by the primaries system in which the voters elect their candidates, but we’ve turned it into a corupt system in which the people get elected by sneeky back room deals or by being more popular at a given moment. Andthe best part, guess what we call it, primaries. Not the translation of te word into hebrew, but primaries.

    Jerry, I wonder how Giuliani got the nickname “I Don’t Bring Up 9/11 for Every Little Thing”? 🙂

  6. jjchandler says:

    Bill is right that it would make more sense. Part of the problem with this system is how many people out there succumb to group think even when their better judgment or reasoning says to do something else. There are people out there who would have voted for Clinton before, but will now look at either Obama or Edwards as their choice simply because “Hillary lost” in Iowa. Likewise, there are likely Edwards supporters out there who dislike Hillary and are now likely planning on going with Obama since he won by a good margin and Edwards only beat out Hillary by a handful of votes. The upshot of that is, in caucus states where Clinton may have beat Obama and Edwards, Obama gets an inflated vote count thanks to Iowa’s results rather then the voters’ original intent.

    If this process is as important to nomination of the candidates as everybody makes out that it is; this should done like the presidential election itself. Every state that holds a caucus should do so on the same night and the results should be held until the later time zones have started getting their results in.

    Micha: “We Israelis were very impressed by the primaries system in which the voters elect their candidates, but we’ve turned it into a corupt system in which the people get elected by sneeky back room deals or by being more popular at a given moment.”

    Heh, then the system isn’t that far removed from ours. We’ve had these issues for decades to some degree or another.

  7. Micha says:

    Guess who’se coming to dinner. Not Sidney Poitier. George W. Bush is visiting Jerusalem. The city is going to be gridlocked.

  8. jjchandler says:

    Micha,

    Can I overnight you some rotten tomatoes?

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